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by: spellboundxxi
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iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 29, 2007 2:48 PM
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I know this is not the first topic about it but I feel so desperate and I hope that with yet another feed back apple might work on this "bug".
I have an iMac 24inch with a 2,8ghz CPU and 4geg of very expensive apple ram.
I called the apple support (france) where we explain me how to flush the PRAM and told me that I should format if I get freezes again.
After an afternoom of basic usage my iMac froze. I re-installed Tiger and after just few minutes after booting on tiger (I did not installed any updates) it froze again...
I even had the feeling that it was close to froze during the installation.
This is a real nightmare, this computer cost me a lot of money and I don't have that much time to lose on how to fix it. If I had the time and liked to do so I would not be an apple fan and would not hate vista.
I made all my relatives switch to intel mac (mother, sister, grand ma) I had nothing to complain about any of those Computers (MB, MBP, iMac White). But when it came to me to go on intel it makes me love my slow G4 CPU.
Where is gone the Apple professionalism ?
I know my post my sound useless and dumb but I'm really disappointed by apple today, I dreamt of this iMac for quite a long time.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 29, 2007 3:18 PM
in response to: 3on
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What do you expect? A magic potion that will be downloaded to your computer that will make eveything work well again? That's not going to happend. It may be a number of things that cause your computer to crash and you need to isolate the problem..... The sooner you realize this... the sooner you can get on with fixing it.
You may want to first change your RAM modules and see if that causes the freezing. Since you've done a fresh OSX install I doubt that any particular software is causing conflict. It may also be something with your HardDrive - however that you would have to get replaced by Apple.
Its going to take some time before you find the source of freezing - but dont be fooled by all the post here - not everyone has the freezing because of one particular problem. I for one have not had a single freez..... and I doubt I'm just lucky,,,, more likely just the norm.
MacBook Core Duo 2.0GHz Black
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 29, 2007 3:33 PM
in response to: tcdm1972
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Lucky you, you don't have to reboot you iMac every 30 minutes...
PowerBook G4 1.5GHz
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 29, 2007 6:27 PM
in response to: 3on
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"Lucky you, you don't have to reboot you iMac every 30 minutes..."
Mac or PC. Linux or Windows. Booting up every 30 minutes, booting up every week or not booting up at all. You're still going have to through the "song and dance" of isolating the source of your problem.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 29, 2007 8:29 PM
in response to: 3on
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Shame on you guys. I don't even have my iMac yet - I'm still stuck with my blasted Dell, exiled in PC-land, awaiting my first Mac in 25 years to arrive - but I still can do more for this poor sufferer than you dolts.
3on, try here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4202786
If that doesn't work, post again, and we'll help you sort out your problem. There have been other people with the same issues, and many of them seem to be resolved by undoing the version 1.1 update. Try it, and if it doesn't work, I'm sure others (who actually have their Mac to work with, unlike me) can help you.
Bon chance!
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I'm switching, I'm switching, don't throw me out!
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 29, 2007 9:34 PM
in response to: JoshuasPoppa
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Sorry, I know you mean well but 3on has already stated in another thread (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1096520&tstart=0) that the problems he/she is experienced are largely unaffected by whether or not the 1.1 update is applied. In which case 3on’s case may be more severe than most and that it would most likely be solved by hardware replacement.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 30, 2007 1:28 PM
in response to: Episcript
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Well Hardware replacement might not be necessary !
I'm almost sure that this is a software issue, so I gave Leopard a try !
And for now, NO freezes, few crashes but due to Leopard only and only minor crashes such as Transmission or Mail.
PowerBook G4 1.5GHz
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Sep 30, 2007 3:55 PM
in response to: 3on
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If that's the case then Apple better include the fix in 10.4.11 (or whatever free update they come up with) as well. I kind of find it troubling, when people say that they hope the problem gets fixed when Leopard rolls out. Why should I pay to fix something that should have not have been broken in the first place? Better yet, give out free copies of Leopard to everybody who bought an alum iMac!!
BTW you seem to be lucky enough to have a developer friend in the loop who is willing to lend you a build of Leopard. I hope you are having fun (or not, depending on how stable the bleeding edge OS is)
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 1, 2007 2:37 AM
in response to: Episcript
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I don't have any friend, except if we can consider the Norwegian as friends...
Well for now it work ok and way better than Tiger.
I hope it will last !
PowerBook G4 1.5GHz
Mac OS X (10.4.6)
1Go RAM (lower ram slot dead)
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 1, 2007 6:50 AM
in response to: 3on
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Ah, sounds like you found a good solution for yourself then. Looks like I might get one after Leopard is released. Just curious, do you know how to check what version of driver you have for your video card? If you open system profiler in the utilities folder, there is a heading on the left called “extensions” that’s where all the drivers are listed I think. I’m not sure if you checked the driver version before you went to Leopard but I was wondering if you could tell if anything has changed since 1.1.
Look for something that has “radeon” or/and “2000” and that should be the driver, it should show when it was last updated and the version number. For example mine says “ATIRadeon8500” it’s version 1.4.18 and was last updated in march 26 2005 about a month before Tiger was released, (I have a 9200 which is based off the 8500 GPU, hence the use of the 8500 driver).
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 2, 2007 11:24 AM
in response to: Episcript
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Well not shure I quite get what you want... so this is a copy paste of my Graphic Card info: (in french)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro :
Jeu de composants : ATI,RadeonHD2600
Type : Moniteur
Bus : PCIe
Longueur de la voie PCIe : x16
VRAM (totale) : 256 Mo
Fournisseur : ATI (0x1002)
Identifiant du périphérique : 0x9583
Identifiant de révision : 0x0000
Révision de la ROM : 113-B2250F-212
Version du gestionnaire EFI : 01.00.212
Moniteurs :
iMac :
Type de moniteur : LCD
Résolution : 1920 x 1200
Profondeur : Couleurs 32 bits
Intégré : Oui
Core Image : Avec accélération matérielle
Moniteur principal : Oui
Miroir : Désactivé
Connecté : Oui
Quartz Extreme : Géré
Connecteur pour le moniteur :
État : Aucun moniteur connecté
PowerBook G4 1.5GHz
Mac OS X (10.4.6)
1Go RAM (lower ram slot dead)
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 2, 2007 9:54 PM
in response to: 3on
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No, not "graphics/displays". If you go near the bottom under software or logiciel a couple of steps down there should be something called extensions, it's right below applications. When you select that, there should be a list of items on the main box. (there might be a brief wait while the system fetches all the information) There should be an item in the list with "radeon" and probably "2000" in it. Actually the exact name of the driver is listed here
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/2007_iMac_owner_reports.html#reports
scroll down and there is a post that shows where the graphics drivers are being installed. Though this might be useless as it seems that you have not taken note of your previous driver so you probably couldn't tell if the driver specifically changed. I appreciate the effort though.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 7:57 AM
in response to: Episcript
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This has been addressed by the masses, this is not your fault, its an Apple-created issue, and the only thing we can do is wait for a fix.
Since this issue started, its been posted on AppleInsider, MacRumors, etc. Apple surely has to be working on a fix now, otherwise its going to get in some trouble very soon 
I would expect a fix to be out in roughly 10-15 hours, at the most. This has happened in the past and Apple has fixed issues like this, I wouldn't go crazy and destroy your iMac just yet.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 8:00 AM
in response to: Dion Rodrigues
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Since this issue started, its been posted on AppleInsider, MacRumors, etc. Apple surely has to be working on a fix now, otherwise its going to get in some trouble very soon
I would expect a fix to be out in roughly 10-15 hours, at the most. This has happened in the past and Apple has fixed issues like this, I wouldn't go crazy and destroy your iMac just yet.
So you think the fact that it's recently been featured on AppleInsider is going to speed up the release of the fix?
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 9:10 AM
in response to: Will : Hi !
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Since this issue started, its been posted on AppleInsider, MacRumors, etc. Apple surely has to be working on a fix now, otherwise its going to get in some trouble very soon
I would expect a fix to be out in roughly 10-15 hours, at the most. This has happened in the past and Apple has fixed issues like this, I wouldn't go crazy and destroy your iMac just yet.
So you think the fact that it's recently been featured on AppleInsider is going to speed up the release of the fix?
Im sure the more press this issue receives, then the more inclined Apple will be to fix it. Rather than being so preoccupied with ring tones for iPhones and YouTube widgets for Apple TV or whatever..
But a fix in 10-15 hours? That would be nice. But I doubt it somehow.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 2:09 PM
in response to: Dion Rodrigues
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Glad to see this issue is getting some attention. I have the freeze generally when I am using Final Cut or occasionally on wake from sleep. It's very surprising and annoying to have to do a hard restart. Let's hope this gets addressed soon.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 4, 2007 11:22 AM
in response to: 3on
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If it doesn't happen in Windows, it is -definitely- a software issue. I don't think this is specific to the iMac, either.
I'm seeing something that sounds identical on my MacBook. It suddenly freezes with only mouse cursor motion. Even the clock in the menu bar stops. Literally the entire UI is hung except for the mouse, though the foreground application continues to function and update its windows. About two or three minutes later, it suddenly goes back to normal.
See if you can wait out the problem. You'll have to be patient---very patient---but I suspect you'll find that the problem clears itself up eventually.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 5, 2007 9:07 AM
in response to: 3on
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You gave leopard a try?!?
It hasn't been released yet, so you could get yourself in a heap of trouble by admitting publicly, that you are using it. As far as I know, the builds are only legally released to the developer community.
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 5, 2007 10:36 AM
in response to: Abrasha Staszew...
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You gave leopard a try?!?
It hasn't been released yet, so you could get yourself in a heap of trouble by admitting publicly, that you are using it. As far as I know, the builds are only legally released to the developer community.
I don't think admitting that you run Leopard will get you in any trouble; posting screenshots and revealing information about it could though. As for obtaining an early copy of Leopard, you need an ADC (Apple Developer Connection) membership (can't remember whether you need a Select or Premier membership). To get such a membership, there are three requirements: being 18 or older, accepting the memberships's terms of use and non-disclosure agreement, and paying the membership fee. You don't have to actually develop anything to get a dev. membership 
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 1, 2007 6:58 AM
in response to: 3on
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Hi,
I posted today a message on iMac freezes. I found some interresting information. OpenGL depth set to 24bit using Cataqlyst Control Center will avoid most of all freezes on Windows XP.
On this OS I also got a blue screen indicating that driver went to an infinite loop. Windows told me to update driver what I can't do due to Apple firmware lock.
Stevens
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 7:56 AM
in response to: 3on
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I've been having the same problem...especially when working in Apple's Motion. Where's the fix?
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 9:05 AM
in response to: 3on
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I just wanted to add that my experience with my iMac has been the same since day one. It freezes about once a day. Double-clicking a photo in iPhoto '08 (with latest updates) to edit it will usually do it (though not always, so it's not completely reproducible).
Good thing it reboots very quickly :/
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Re: iMac Aluminium Freezing
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Oct 3, 2007 9:12 AM
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